Saturday, September 26, 2015
Our Goldfoot's Ancient DNA From Neanderthals
Through genealogy provided in the Torah, and from what we have discovered today through DNA, Abraham must have had the haplotype of J1, the Cohen gene, because Moses and his brother Aaron had to have had this haplotype being almost half of present day Jews bear this haplogroup and so do many Arabs. This goes along with Abraham's sons being Ishmael, father of the Arab line and Issac, father of the Jewish line.
Q's go back to central Asia 15,000 to 20,000 years ago and migrated through northern Eurasia into the Americas. Along the way they happened to stop and take up residence in Ur, Iraq where Abraham lived. We originated from far older lines than J1, the Cohen gene of Aaron, Moses's brother of which most Jews belong to. J1 didn't get into the Fertile Crescent until about 10,000 to 15,000 years ago. Did we meet up as slaves in Egypt or in Ur? Were we part of the group of 70 of Abraham's family that trekked to Egypt during the drought?
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Denisova Cave in Siberia, is approximately 50,000 years old. A female's bone or bones had been tested there. Q haplotypes come from Siberia, Mongolia and parts of Turkey, especially from the Altai Mountains. They have been found to finally get to present day Iraq around Ur, where Abraham was from. Now I wonder if Q1b1a only contains 5% of the Jews because it is the oldest haplogroup and many lines have died out. American Indians are also Qs, and they are another branch from the oldest one. We didn't match a thing on #8, or #10, 15 or 17 but did match a little in all the other chromosomes. Evidently they couldn't find out the haplogroup from this female who bears the mtDNA haplogroup.
In the Denisova Cave in Siberia, a Denisova bone of a woman was found which goes back 30,000 years that we matched at least a sliver on all chromosomes except #3, 7,15, 16, 18 and 20. They couldn't get DNA testing for haplogroups from her, either.
2. So are the Palaeo-Eskimo from Qeqertarsuaq, Greenland who bear Y dna of Q1a haplotype and a Mt-DNA of D2a1. A male was tested who went back to 4,000 years, and whose line of Palaeo-Eskimos went back to 2000 BCE (4,000 years ago). We bear genes from this group as well. An mt haplotype of D goes back 60,000 years ago in NW Asia and then sent out branches into the Americas where it is found in Native Americans.
3. Another Q line, Q-Z780 Y haplogroup and an mt haplotype, D4h3a, came up as a Clovis-Anzick-1 in Montana, North America of a male. He was at least 12,500 years old and these haplotypes matches living people today. Being a Q, this is off the branch of our Native Americans of which the Jewish line of Q1b1a had branched off of long ago before they headed for North America.
4. The Ice Age had caused humans to head south, and I find we have ancient dna from Leon, Spain, called the La Brana-Arintero of a male that goes back 7,000 years. He had the Ydna of C-V183, which is found throughout the mainland of Asia, the South Pacific and at low frequency in native American populations. It originated in southern Asia and spread out in all directions. It's found in populations of India today.
Map of J1 Haplotype from Wikipedia
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Cohens in the first Temple They are the descendants of Aaron, Moses's brother. As far as we know, Moses left no descendants but was a direct descendant of Abraham. |
6. They found a female in Stuttgart, Germany's cave called LBK whao had mtDNA was T2c2 and it was 7,500 years old. This sample matches living people today. T is believed to have originated in Mesopotamia or Anatolia 10,000 years ago and moved northward with the spread of farming. It's found mostly around the eastern Baltic Sea and in the Urals. This is interesting since many Jews lived in these places lately, and were in Germany shortly after the fall of the 2nd Temple in Judah where they had traveled from Rome into France and Germany, the Rhineland as it was called then. Stuttgart is 160.7 km from Worms, Germany which was a big Jewish center, about 1 1/2 hours by car.
We share ancient DNA from Siberia, Spain, Sweden, Stuttgart, Germany, , Loschbour, Luxembourg, Cambridgshire, UK, Tiszaszolos-Domahaza, Hungary, other places in Hungary, Russia, Estonia, Poland, Czech Republic, Brazil and even the Kennewick Man at Washington State, USA who is 8,358 years old and is a Q-M199.
Neanderthal From Israel
The Carmel Caves are on the western slopes of Mt. Carmel, about 20 km south of Haifa. They were first excavated in the 1920s and 30s. Later digs took place in the 60s when they studied pollen and fossils. They had found flint tools, animal bones and human burials in the Caves.
One of the caves is the Tabun Cave or Cave of the Oven. It was occupied half a million to some 40,000 years ago. First the occupants enjoyed a fairly warm climate shown by pollen traces found. The melting glaciers that covered large parts of the globe caused the sea level to rise and the Mediterranean coastline to recede. It has one of the longest sequences of human occupation in the Levant. A cold, more humid climate prevailed when glaciers formed once more. This caused the Mediterranean Sea level to drop some 100 m. to its present level.
The remains from the cave were of the Mousterian culture which was about from 200,000 to 45,000 years ago. They found small flint tools made of thin flakes which were predominate here. Many were produced by the Levallois technique where they trimmed the flint core before the desired shape of the flake is struck off. The people's diet was of fruit, seeds, roots and leaves with meat. The meat was from the gazelle, fallow deer, roe deer and wild boar. Animals most likely were herded towards the cave and fell into it where they were butchered. This cave contained the burial of a woman from 120,000 years ago. It's one of the most ancient human skeletons found in Israel. I wonder if they've done a dna test on her. They have on many of the Egyptian pharaohs.
"Hershkovitz told Haaretz newspaper from Israel that the presence of modern humans at Manot also supports the idea that Homo sapiens sapiens left Africa through the Nile valley, Sinai and what is today known as Israel, striking a blow at competing theories that see our ancestors crossing the Red Sea into contemporary Yemen or the Mediterranean at the Straits of Gibraltar." 1
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/life/archaeology/1.639350
""Neanderthals were flourishing here 50,000 to 60,000 years ago," Hershkovitz said. "Then, anatomically modern humans arrived from Africa and created a melting pot of evolution."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/life/archaeology/1.639350."
So as the puzzle goes, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg," now we know that what came first to Israel was the Neanderthal and then came the Humans out of Africa. And of importance to us basically was Abraham and the Ivri (Hebrews). In my article about Abraham, "Abram/ Abraham was an Ivri (Hebrew) of the 2nd millennium BCE or 1948 BCE according to the Tanach who came from the East with his people and father, Terah, and settled in Ur of the Chaldees which is in today's Iraq. That was almost 4,000 years ago or 3,963 to be more exact, which fits the Jewish calendar of this now being the year 5776. Ur was an ancient Babylonian city. It never said how far east he came from, but of course he and his family came much later than the first humans out of Africa. This shows that people might have been constantly moving westward who came out of Africa. Most likely Africa could have been northern Africa.
Resource: Abraham's Children, race, identity, and the DNA of the Chosen People by Jon Entine
GedMatch.com
FamilyTreeDNA
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Archaeology/carmel.html
http://www.biblewalks.com/info/Urbanization.
htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabun_Cave
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/in-the-hills-of-haifa-a-500-000-year-old-home-with-a-view-1.460491
http://www.haaretz.com/life/archaeology/1.639350 55,000-year-old skull shows our ancestors did come out of Africa, and hints at what happened when they met their Neanderthal cousins.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/life/archaeology/1.639350 1
http://www.biblewalks.com/Sites/carmelcaves.html fantastic site; tons of pictures of the caves
http://jewishbubba.blogspot.com/2014/10/following-in-footsteps-of-abraham.html
Labels: cave man, Denisovian, dna, Israel, Neanderthal, Q1b1a haplotype; J1 halptype